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Lucy

"Fiction owns the interior world, but Film's got exterior reality by a landslide"

Love this expression in your post! Totally how I feel about the two mediums. Are you familiar with Todorov and the psychological vs. the a/psychological?

JJ

As someone who switches back and forth so he can fail equally in both mediums (media?), I would just like to say, "A skank is marrying your son? I didn't know you had children."

Don't forget the evil that both allow: backstory. Tell them not to use backstory for God's sake. Just keep repeating "slow reveal" over and over. You'll do the world a favor in both media (mediums?).

Lucy

Hey JJ, I probably made it up (medium/media). But I'm from the UK. This allows me to bend the english language at will ; )

MaryAn

So, the definition of "fiction" being used here is novella? Film, like literature, is fictional and non-fictional but you mean novels, short stories, etc? Cobwebs in my brain today. Somebody get me a broom.

E.C. Henry

Proprietary Man,

Don't worry about the class, really on your wit and charm and you'll do fine.


If you're going to defend cimema v.s. fiction. You don't simpy have to go the action/adventure route. What about movies such as "What Women Want" and "As Good as It Gets". Both great movies, that feel like adaptations of fiction. Sometimes cinema does fiction right, "Lord of the Rings" for example. Read the book -- yawn... Loved the movie, quickened pace

Don't get me wrong, books let you in the head of people much better than movies. But honestly if "Silence of the Lambs" was a book would you want to read it? Naw... Sometimes a hour and a half with someone is enough! One could sucessfully agrue that in some cases cimema is better for character study than fiction.

Hope things go well for you on Saturday. Have fun!

- E.C. Henry from Bonney Lake, WA

Neil

What an exciting subject matter. Good luck. You guys are going to need a lot of it to handle such a complicated subject matter -- where for everything you say, someone can probably find an example that counters it --

mernitman

Lucy: not familiar with Todorov (possible Russian Toto cover band?), so do tell.

JJ: Oh, yeah. YOU say "slow reveal" to an aspiring screen/writer. And then have someone wake you a few weeks later when they get to the point.

MaryAn: Yuh-huh -- fiction as in, prose on the page (novel, novella, short story). Sweep... sweep...

Sure thing, E.C.

Um, Neil? Thanks a LOT -- that's JUST what I needed to hear...

Lucy

Todorov talked about the psychological vs. the a/psychological...Was quite straight forward really: if psychological is *of* the mind, then a/psychological is *not*, so novels are psychological and films are a/psychological. Obviously there's more to it than that as Todorov devoted his entire life to narratology, but that's the gist! Here's a cool links section that should send you in the direction of more stuff on narratology if you want it: http://www.narratology.net/html/links.html

JJ

I actually read a script at Zoetrope with dialogue like this:

BOB

Hello, Virginia, my wife of nine years whom I recently divorced.

VIRGINIA

Hello, Bob, I am happy with my new husband, Roger, now.

And repeat until projectile vomiting ensues.

mernitman

Lucy: Thank you for the link. They use Very Big Words over there...

JJ: I wish you were kidding but I know you're not. I'm sure the novelization was much stronger:

"Hello, Virginia," Bob said to his wife of nine years whom he'd recently divorced.
"Hello, Bob," replied Virginia, who was happy now with her new husband, Roger...


Babs

"Troupers" as in:
A member of a theatrical company.
A veteran actor or performer. Or -
A reliable, often hard-working person?
Probably all three on Saturday.

I'm also suffering quote envy. The two that open the post are perfect.

Dave

I actually read a script at Zoetrope with dialogue like this:

BOB

Hello, Virginia, my wife of nine years whom I recently divorced.

VIRGINIA

Hello, Bob, I am happy with my new husband, Roger, now.

And repeat until projectile vomiting ensues.


OMG!? Aaron Sorkin should be worried.
cheers
Dave

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